21 Mtg Minutes 16 Feb 12

The Emerald Cost Chapter held a meeting on 16 Feb. See the minutes here!

Members Present:
John Greer (Prez);Jim Shelingoski (VP); Darrell Beasley (Sec/Tres); Tom Zima;Nick Sims; Danny Bridges; Mark Madamba; Tom Wright; Johnny Long; Jack Shields; Sam Giardinia; Dave Oz; Brian Jones

1. Meeting was opened at Scully’s at 1700 by John Greer. Minutes from last meeting: Discuss/approve report from 1 May10. Tom motioned, sectioned by Danny. Members approved

2. Treasurers Report: Ending balance for 26 Aug10 is $5536.86 in checking, $5.00 in savings, $154.00 in cash and $1,075.00 in assets with a total worth of $6770.86.

3. Agenda:
a. AMMO Call for the Northeast Florida area. Prez thanks all who helped put this together. Everyone had a great time and look forward to doing this again in Nov for the reunion.
b. Spring picnic. Prez thanked Jim and Sam for all the work and cooking of the beer butt chickens. Everyone had a great time and enjoyed the day.
c. Golf Tournament; Prez gave report of the 25 Jun Golf tournament. Still waiting to finalized last minute inputs, but looks like we made around $3,000 and $1000 will go to the Okaloosa Special Olympics. The next tournament is scheduled for 24 Sep, but Prez mentioned that is may be better if we move to Oct. The fundraiser is not necessary for the Reunion costs but will keep us in the black for the 2011 events. Motioned by Johnny/Tom to look at moving tournament to mid Oct and approved. The prez contacted the course and the next tournament is scheduled for 15 Oct 10. Now we need all the membership to get out and get sponsors, door prizes and teams.
d. 2010 ACA Reunion; We have about 20 folks signed up for the reunion and now we need all the local members to send in their signup sheets. The ACA prez will get an email out to all ACA members to signup for the reunion.
e. Okaloosa County Mental Health Association. Presented the ECC a plaque in appreciation for our support of the homeless veterans. Have invited us to join their organization. Annual Membership is $60.00. Johnny motioned and seconded by Chuck W. Discussion proceeded and Darrell questioned what the actual membership will do for the ECC and the Health Association. After further discussion motioned was tabled. Motion was made to donate to the Association by Mark/Tom and membership approved donating $100 to the Association.

4. New Business:
a. Museum ACA Plaque presentation. Johnny stated we are set for 4 Nov at 1400 to make the ACA AMMO Plaque presentation at the AA Museum. He will get the setup done and script for the presentation. Also will look at inviting an AMMO colonel to speak.
b. Mark Madamba brought up an idea to recognize members who increase membership by the ACA. ACA Prez Darrell stated that the ACA is increasing in membership with the new European Chapter.
c. Muscular Dystrophy asks for $100.00 Hole Sponsor of their tournament. Motions by Tom/Danny and approved.
d. Helen Back has asked if the ACA would like to decorate their AMMO Bar. Jim/Danny motioned to press with this but added that a committee be formed to ensure we do not add any illegal decorations. If you have any thing you would like to donate please get with Jim or Danny.

5. Income;
a. Dues collected: Shields ECC lifetime $25.00.
b. Fines collected: None.
c. Other: 2 AMMO Hitches $60.00, $10.00 Tom Zima for reunion, $25.00 Tom Zima donation for not making all the functions, AMMO Plate $25.00.

6. Agenda items for next meeting…
a. ACA Reunion.

7. The next meeting will be set up at Scully’s on the Bayou in Sep TBD, at 1700hrs.

8. Motion by Danny and seconded by Johnny to adjourn at 1815hrs.

Take care and keep your powder dry. Darrell

Ok folks…here I go stirring the pot!   I’ve sent emails to as many current AMMO Chiefs and SrNCOs at the helm of the SE Bombdumps and retired AMMO Chiefs in the SE area and I wanted to get on my soapbox to try and get the SE AMMO Bowl back to basics. Based on the responses I’ve had think this needs wider distribution. So here goes, if the shoe fits>>>>

 I think it is time for AMMO Bowls to return to the real reason we have an AMMO Bowl…to allow AMMO Troops the opportunity to come together and play some softball.  Winning the AMMO Bowl should be a side bar compared to the camaraderie built and the new friends met and old friends reacquainted.   Over the years it seems we have bastardized who is eligible to play in the AMMO Bowl with the intent to stack a team in an attempt to be undefeatable and win the trophy.  I don’t want to meet someone who is NOT AMMO…they have not traveled the same roads I have.  I’ve seen it where AGE troops who delivered AGE to the bomb dump were allowed on the roster, Cops who patrolled the bombdump, officers who were Sq maintenance Officers and  not AMMO, and a multitude of other examples over the years.  I’ve seen places like Eglin combine the 33, 46, Arm Armament Center, AFRL and AFOTEC into one so called super team stacked to be undefeatable.  We have even allowed dependents to play on the A teams (OBTW military dependents are no longer dependents after they turn 21 years of age, 23 if in college) to stack teams.  Oh yes…I am guilty of this also…I let my 17 year old son play on the Ramstein B Team at the approval of the B Team coach…went to Darby and they had a great time drinking beer and playing ball with the intent not to play too many games that would interfere with the partying.  And the most resent news which broke the camels back, I’ve heard there is an AMMO Bowl Team called the ORFs (Old Retired Fellas) which is putting a team together for the SE AMMO Bowl.  Sounded like a great idea to get some of these old retired guys back into the fray (even thought of asking to put me on the roster) to come in and play the younger active duty troops and show these active duty guys we all still care and want to keep involved in the AMMO community, how some ever, I found out that the Old Retired fellas do not have just retired AMMO Troops on the team…they have what they call dependents  from a retired weapons troop on their team…again I say, where is the integrity of just wanting the come out and play ball with fellow AMMO troops.  

I have played in many AMMO Bowls in CONUS, PACAF and USAFE and I can say when I coached teams I kept the integrity of the unit and I would hope all other teams would maintain the same integrity to keep the field even and make the Bowl enjoyable for all teams. When I coached the 33d all players were 33d folks and we even won it one year.  When I coached at Ramstein all A Team players were AMMO Troops and we won the USAFE AMMO Bowl one year.  I even took the Ramstein team to Bolling for the worldwide and got my ass kicked by Hurlburt.

 Now I do not coach or play anymore (unless the 33d asks me to play on their team, the unit I retired from) so I really don’t have a dog in this hunt, how some ever, as a retired AMMO Chief I want to see the AMMO Bowls continue and I want to see more involvement from other units.  

We wonder how we can get more teams into the SE AMMO Bowl…well let a team from Moody, or Patrick or ANG or even Maxwell know that they can be competitive with the few AMMO Troops they can muster from their small bombdumps because they will be competing against bombdump teams and not stacked teams.  If these units know that the playing field is level with team integrity from each unit they may want to participate…who wants to come here and face an almost guaranteed two and out facing stacked teams.  As for folks who do not have a unit make them enter the players pool and play with fellow AMMO troops…are they here for a trophy or camaraderie?

The intent of the AMMO Bowls is to allow the opportunity for AMMO troops to socialize, meet, play some softball and build the camaraderie we all cherish as AMMO Troops.  I personally know a lot of AMMO troops who I’ve never had the pleasure of working with but met at an AMMO Bowl over the years.

I ask each of you who have played in or participated in an AMMO Bowl over the years and enjoyed the camaraderie to send your comments to the SE AMMO Bowl Director (Bruce Stillwell, here at Eglin on the global) whether you agree with all my comments or not…you guys are the movers and shakers in the SE AMMO Community and if you voice your concerns maybe we can get the SE AMMO Bowl back to the roots in which it started.

Let us challenge the SE AMMO Bowl Tournament director to revise the player eligibility rules to make is unit specific, require documents for player eligibility and make sure dependents are dependents as defined as a military dependent.  Also prevent big AMMO bases like Eglin from making one so-called super-duper team and keep it unit level, i.e., 46 Wing, 33d Wing and 808 ARSW/AFOTEC.  As for the ORFs, since they do not belong to any unit, establish rules for player eligibility such as…duhhh…must be a retired AMMO Troop.

My thoughts…nuff said!   Darrell! Take care and keep your powder dry!  IYA AMMO YAS!

Meeting was opened at Scully’s On the Bayou at 1730 by Darrell Beasley (Sec/Tres). 

 

Members Present:

Jack Shields                Jim Shelingoski                       Tom Wright

Danny Bridges            John Greer                               Mark Madamba

Darrell Beasley            Chucks Wills

 

1.  Minutes from last meeting: Discuss/approve report from 18 Apr 09.  Darrell, motioned, seconded by Mark.  Members approved

 

2.  Treasurers Report:  Treasurer Report read.  Ending balance is $3199.65.

 

3.  Agenda:

 

a.       Golf tournament.  Set up for 14 August 2009, 0800 shotgun start, Pines course.  Will be a charity tourney to support the homeless veterans.  John said we needed at lease 20 teams and gave out donation letters and asked all members to get out and solicit donations and teams.

 

b.      Biloxi Trip.  John will set up a trip in Sep, date TBD, and urged all members to once he sets a date we need to fill the bus, potential of ~$250.00 profit.

 

c.       Belk charity sale.  John briefed that the final tally for Belk Charity sales was $70.00 in the coffers.

 

d.      2010 ACA Reunion;  ACA BOD and membership has asked for the ECC top host the 2010 reunion.  All members again reciprocated 100% support.  John and Jim will take the lead and start the process, but will need more help from membership as the years progresses.

 

e.       August Social. Jim will set up an Aug social after the golf tournament, date, time and location TBD.

 

f.       November Dinner/Dance.  John gave quick update, rooms are reserved and he will again send out all the details in forth coming emails.

 

g.      AMMO Call.  We all thanked Jim for setting up the AMMO Call at Helen Back and all members stated everyone had a great time.  Final bill for the AMMO Call was $513.99.  Jim motioned and seconded by Jack that the ECC should sponsor an AMMO Call once a year in Apr.  Motioned carried unanimously.

 

4.  New Business:

            a.  ACA Elections.  ACA BOD will send out a motion for membership vote to extend the current terms.  Keep track of your emails and respond as you choose.

 

            b.  SE AMMO Bowl.  ECC will support SE AMMO Bowl with $200.00.  Waiting for official request from SE AMMO Bowl Director.

 

            c.  AMMO Hitches/Plates.  Jack motioned, seconded by Jim to contact Dwight Howard and order 25 diamond plate hitches and 25 diamond plate license plate for sale locally and at the SE AMMO Bowl.  Membership approved to contact Dwight and determine price and confirm delivery date prior to SE AMMO Bowl.  Sec will contact Dwight and if delivery can be made by mid Jul, then place an order.  Tom and Mark have already stated they will purchase one.

 

            c.  Informational/Guest Speaker.  Mark gave a quick informational briefing on how to apply for concealed weapon permit and also if any member is a member of the NRA or wants to become a member, get in touch with Mark and, as an official recruiter, for all renewal or new membership dues collected by Mark, the NRA will give the ECC $10.00.

 

9.  Income.  None.

 

10.  Agenda items for next meeting…

                        a.  Biloxi Trip.

                        b.  2010 Reunion Report.

                        c.  November Dinner/Dance.

 

11.  The next meeting was set for Aug Jim Shelingoski, date, and time to be announced.

 

12.  Motion by Danny and Seconded by Mark to adjourn at 1900hrs.  Motion carried unanimously.  Spent $79.88 for beer and pizzas.

 

Take care and keep your powder dry.  Darrell H. Beasley  Secretary